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4 [naive?] questions [Nov. 6th, 2007|12:12 pm]
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Hi, me again.

Well, it seems the more I'm learning, the more I'm realizing there's so much I don't know!
I spent some time on Kemet.org, and signed up for the beginner's class (last one started in September - I don't know when the next one is, do you?), as I figured it was a good place to start.

here are some questions.

1) As you probably know, they give you a pretty hefty questionnaire as to why you are interested in Kemetic Orthodoxy, and one of the questions says, "Are you prepared to learn about and potentially join a fairly conservative religion, having both a strict ethical code and a hierarchical structure?" 
Not that this is a deterrent, but could anyone tell me the specifics of this?  In what ways is it conservative and strict?  I do know that there were stigmas attached to eating pork and seafood then as there is now in the Near East - would that be part of it?  Or is it more sexually conservative?  I'm so, so sorry if this is naive or just screams, "NOOB."  Again, just figured I ought to know before I dedicate myself. 

2) Also, I'm reading a lot about dedicating yourself specifically to one or two Netjer, and giving yourself a Shemsu name.   Are either necessary?  I'm perfectly comfortable with my own name [Renee] unless it is displeasing to Netjer.  Also, I really wouldn't mind worshiping all of them equally (well, not *all* right away, since there are hundreds, but rather all of which I know well).  Years before I was into Kemetic Religion I was strictly Aset-based, though more Greco-Roman all-encompassing-goddess Isis, than Aset.  Could that be a sign that she is already picked out for me, or would choosing one require much longer study?

3) I was pleased to find out that having an ancestral altar is part of it, because I find a lot of joy in making altars.  I know aspects of KO are very specific - so is there a certain color scheme (is black too predictable, or pitch perfect?) I want to look for, or is it more of a "whatever you feel speaks to you" thing?  Are there certain smells, fabrics, food offerings, prayers that I want to use/keep away in using this altar?

4) Ok, last one, I promise.  I know the Ancient Egyptians were big on dream interpretations, especially if they were expecting the Netjer to give them information or insight that night.   However, my dreams [like many peoples'] are often disjointed, and incoherent.  Is there a way to decipher them and find any relevance?  Will any New Age dream book do, or did the Egyptians have particular associations and correlations in terms of dream content?


Phew.  Again - I apologize if I used the wrong term, mixed up my facts, or asked anything blatantly obvious.  I just feel that one never knows until one asks :)  

Thanks in advance!

hotep.

Renee

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[User Picture]From: jayed
2007-11-06 06:38 pm (UTC)
Hi there
I can not answer all your questions, and I know that people might disagree with me on what I have to say (nature of the beast).

1. Are you prepared to learn about and potentially join a fairly conservative religion, having both a strict ethical code and a hierarchical structure? . Thats quite hard, since I have not found HON to be that strict and hierarchical.. BUT I am still a remet (sorry if thats spelt wrong) and have found the majority of people to be really nice, open and welcoming. I assume it means that once you have been divined that you should only worship your 'parents', that you are expected to attend so many days at the 'house', that you are expected to follow rites of purity etc etc. It also means that you have to accept their King as your King and accept what she says as law.

Of course that my take on it..:)

2) Also, I'm reading a lot about dedicating yourself specifically to one or two Netjer, and giving yourself a Shemsu name.

You don't to that. The Nisut does that for you (at a fee, but you can work out a payment plan). She will determine who your Netjer parents are, and your Shemsu name. I found my own Kemetic name, Khentysatewef, and if you feel that you want to stick on your own path, its quite acceptable to do the beginners class and not progress through the ranks..:)

3) I want to look for, or is it more of a "whatever you feel speaks to you" thing? Are there certain smells, fabrics, food offerings, prayers that I want to use/keep away in using this altar?

Offering wise, nothing withe dung in it. incense sticks often have dung in them, so becarefull!!

Fabrics anything natural seems to be preferred.

Food wise, that depends on who you speak to. I have heard that Anubis/Anpu likes sweets, pork and cigars, but I have found that He prefers lamb and tea! Its a personal issue between yourself and the Netjer. Of course, as I said I don't know if those who are priests in the house have stricter rules on offerings.

I can not help with number 4..:)

Hope all this helps, again my knowledge of HON is limited..

(sorry, deleted comment and spell checked)
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[User Picture]From: makhsihed
2007-11-06 08:10 pm (UTC)
"once you have been divined that you should only worship your 'parents', that you are expected to attend so many days at the 'house', that you are expected to follow rites of purity etc etc. It also means that you have to accept their King as your King and accept what she says as law."

Not so! Definitely not so! I wouldn't be there if that was the case.

If you become Shemsu, then you are essentially vowing to worship your Parent(s) first - but we are a polytheistic faith, however soft that polytheism may be, and we have a multitude of gods. We honor and worship many gods, not just our Parent(s) and Beloved(s). Other gods can affect your life, mentor-style. And plenty of people honor gods other than the ones in their RPD lineup.

You can attend however many House events you want. There's no requirement.

You do NOT have to accept the Nisut as your King, not as remetj or divined remetj or shemsu. As shemsu, you accept the Nisut as a teacher - but no more than that. As shemsu-ankh, you accept the Nisut as a parent-figure. Shemsu-Ankh and priests are the only ones who have to accept the Nisut as king/mother/etc, and a lot of people never feel a need or call to be anything more than shemsu. (I certainly don't.)

The purity restrictions (only required for formal ritual like senut) are the parts a lot of people have issue with. Same with the hierarchy - we have a hierarchal priesthood, we have a spiritual leader, and that can be hard to deal with.
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[User Picture]From: jayed
2007-11-06 08:43 pm (UTC)
"once you have been divined that you should only worship your 'parents', that you are expected to attend so many days at the 'house', that you are expected to follow rites of purity etc etc. It also means that you have to accept their King as your King and accept what she says as law."

Not so! Definitely not so! I wouldn't be there if that was the case.


If you want to progress up through the priesthood you do have to visit the 'house', which is what I was refering to.

Also I am under the impression you can only progress as a preist of the Netjer you are parented too.

You do NOT have to accept the Nisut as your King, not as remetj or divined remetj or shemsu.

Again, if you want to progress past Shemsu you have different requirements, which is what I was refering to.

I have never felt the need to take my role with HON past remetj, so as I said in my post my knowledge is limited, but it all helps to form a fuller picture for the questioner to get differnet points of view from people at different levels..:)
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[User Picture]From: aa_shi
2007-11-07 09:50 am (UTC)
I'll try and help :)

1. I have never found it to be very 'strict' as such. A lot of it seems to be obviously there are ranks of priest etc. and common courtesy etc is expected to those 'above' you as such and respect etc. Also, accepting the Nisut (AUS) as your King in this religion.

2. NO. You do not have to dedicate yourself to just the one or two Names. In fact you are encouraged to build relationships with as many as you would like to - so don't worry on that head. If you do decide to have the RPD done (to find your 'parent Names') and then decide to become a Shemsu and be given your name - then you will promise to serve your parent Names first, but not exclusively. I serve Wepwawet, Ptah and Bast-Mut first, but I am exploring relationships with other Names as well, for instance Shu (as an example).

3. For your Akhu or ancestor alter, as far as I am aware there is no certain colour scheme - think about things that your ancestors would have liked - put pictures of them there - whatever feels right really. As for offerings etc - I believe that just whatever food or what have you that you think would be right is fine. I don't think (as far as I know) that purity is quite such an issue as it is with your shrine to Netjer - remember these are your relatives - so if you were to offer something woollen or synthetic, bone or ivory, I wouldn't have thought that it would be an issue. (Please bear in mind that this is just how I have understood things - it is not fact as such!).

4. I have to admit - I know nothing about dreams and interpretations but I hope the other bits have helped :)
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From: kohlminer
2007-11-07 11:54 am (UTC)
Yes, you very much did help, thank you :D
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